Feedback Please!

Hello everyone,

I am writing this post to ask for feedback on where everyone is in their piano tuning journey.

Are you tuning friends’ pianos yet? Still practicing? Have you reached a plateau and having trouble overcoming some challenge? Maybe you are working as a tuner and making money finally.

Let us know!

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9 Responses to “Feedback Please!”

  1. Dimitrov says:

    What about the entropy method to tune the pianos?

      • Tricia Turner says:

        I was wondering about the entropy piano tuning app also. I have been studying (various places online, including your tuning manual), watching your course you did with Judy and Ben (I finally finished it!), and will be taking a local course in the near future at BYU. I decided to try out different free or low-cost ETD’s, and got TuneLab97 onto my mac (which took some finagling), and found that I like Entropy Piano Tuner the most so far. It actually produced a pretty nice tuning on my piano that I’ve been practicing tuning on.
        I’m excited about your new book also! I have the Reblitz book, but noticed all the pics are B&W. I haven’t dived into it yet for that reason – just looks pretty boring. How about your book?

        • I am an aural tuner and I believe the aural method can be better than the ETD method no matter what ETD is used, if it is taught right.

          These are the reasons why I believe the Aural method is so good:

          – The ETD method inherently requires one to tune and listen to one string at a time. Strings interact with each other and that can change how they sound after you add the unisons.

          – Strings drift. Good aural tuning involves multiple checks which catch drifted notes.

          – High level tuning requires aural confirmation and tweaking of the ETD. Using an ETD robs you of critical aural time needed to improve your ear.

          – ETDs have a lot of assumptions programmed into the algorithms. Aural methods are based on what the string sounds like, not what it should sound like.

          – It’s true the an ETD tuning can be good enough. I don’t want to bring my just good enough tuning to a high level artist when I get the call. I want to bring my wow tuning. Strictly machine tunings with no aural checks do not produce wow tunings imho.

          – To pass the RPT exam, you need aural skills. They do not allow ETDs on the temperament.

        • The eBook version of Piano Tuning Theory has colour diagrams and figures.

          My basic piano tuning manual goes into more practical detail than Reblitz. It is a step by step approach with theory left in the appendices.

          My books are at
          http://store.howtotunepianos.com/?product_cat=books

  2. Stuart Rogers says:

    Tuned a friend’s piano way back in January and that was it for 2017! Still want to do more practice at home, but life has been filled with many other activities. If you opened the music desk of my Mason & Risch, you’d find a rubber wedge or two in the strings and a hammer hanging off a pin 🙂
    Maybe when the weather turns cold I’ll spend more time on the bench… Still love the challenge. Also just received my copy of Piano Tuning Theory, so I’ll read that by the fireside, too.
    Best regards to you, Mark.

    • The biggest impetus for me was to make money. And to make money I had to be good and fast. So that’s what I worked on. Maybe if I had a good job making money I wouldn’t have had the motivation to focus. It’s a double edged sword. Some days I would rather I had more money and less tuning skills. 😉

  3. Cobrun Sells says:

    To anyone reading,
    After studying with Mark I formed my own way to tune. Mark tunes temperament, treble, then bass. I prefer temperament, bass, then treble. There are some other things that I differ from Mark a little bit, but my biggest road block is ETD! I have a Sanderson-Accutuner IV and it is so easy to use and leaves the temperament between F3-F4 sounding pretty good. My biggest beef is that I purchased it before having studied with Mark and I am lazy and use it all the time. I can’t remember the last time I tuned a temperament by ear and feel ashamed. I want to go that route of tuning APE method (Accurate, Precise, Efficient)(by ear alone) which Mark has created and which I have studied, it’s just that using the ETD is so easy and tempting…plus I own the darn $1,600 USD thing so why would I not use it?
    So in summation: my biggest road block is ego/incentive to tune by ear. My other biggest struggle is the business/marketing aspect of tuning. I tune decently, regulate okay, repair what I can and don’t repair what I know I have no skill on repairing, but when it comes to reaching out and getting more customers I struggle.

    • It is a struggle. I think most tuners use an ETD. The only way to get better tuning by ear is to do it, with some directed focus. That means putting the ETD into the drawer, for a while anyway. You can always pull it out again later.

      Business building? Good topic. I’ve got a few ideas. Maybe a blog post?

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